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ilikeenglish
Senior Member
South Africa
- Oct 18, 2006
- #1
Hello,
Previously I had the impression that a period of time is usually regarded as a singular or uncountable thing, so the verb followed is "-s" in most cases, eg. is/ has/ does/etc.
But recently, I find a question posted on the net for language learners whose answer only allows "have passed/elapsed" after "ten years", without "has passed" being listed as a possible answer.
So I wonder if "has passed" cannot follow "ten years"? Or is the answer given to the question not complete.
Thank you.
TrentinaNE
Senior Member
USA
English (American)
- Oct 18, 2006
- #2
ilikeenglish said:
So I wonder if "has passed" cannot follow "ten years"? Or is the answer given to the question not complete.
The noun "time" is not countable, but its units of measure are. You must use a plural form of the verb with days, years, months, etc.
Elisabetta
Sr. Moose
Banned
Frostbite Falls, Alces and English
- Oct 18, 2006
- #3
Hi. In this case we're talking about ten units of time (years), so the noun is plural.
On the other hand, 'a period of ten years' is a single unit.
Brioche
Senior Member
Adelaide
Australia English
- Oct 18, 2006
- #4
I would definitely use a singular in "Ten days/weeks/months/years is a long time to wait."
If "ten years" really means "a period of ten years" then I'm happy with a singular: "After ten years has passed you can apply for possession of the land".
But if you want to emphasise the cycle of time, then "have" sounds better.
Ten years have passed - ten long, lonely years - since Bill died at sea.
If you want to emphasis the
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ilikeenglish
Senior Member
South Africa
- Oct 18, 2006
- #5
Thank you all, esp. Bioche. Your example has reminded me of sth that I could not recall a few minutes before.
Though my puzzle has not been fully resolved, I know some usages concerning a period of time, know better about where to use "the third person singular verb form" or otherwise. Thank you.
But the rule still seems a little bit abitrary to me.
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ilikeenglish
Senior Member
South Africa
- Oct 18, 2006
- #6
I think I understand now.
Because I recall that in the very beginning, we are taught this structure "There are 12 months in one year."
Sr. Moose
Banned
Frostbite Falls, Alces and English
- Oct 18, 2006
- #7
Brioche brings up a good point, but in the example 'Ten years is a long time' we're using a linking verb and subject complement rather than a verb that expresses action. That is, a plural noun is simply being modified by an adjective.
TrentinaNE
Senior Member
USA
English (American)
- Oct 18, 2006
- #8
Brioche said:
I would definitely use a singular in "Ten days/weeks/months/years is a long time to wait."
Excellent point that I had forgotten!
If "ten years" really means "a period of ten years" then I'm happy with a singular: "After ten years has passed you can apply for possession of the land".
Hmmm... in this context, the singular verb continues to sound odd to me.
Elisabetta
Sr. Moose
Banned
Frostbite Falls, Alces and English
- Oct 18, 2006
- #9
Well, we could change the entire ball game and use 'An arduos ten years has passed.'
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Forero
Senior Member
Maumelle, Arkansas, USA
USA English
- May 6, 2008
- #10
"Ten years" can be either singular or plural, depending on what is meant:
"After ten years
has passed you can apply for possession of the land." [a ten-year period]
"After ten years
passed you can apply for possession of the land."
"Ten years" as a plural seems a longer time (ten years passing, one by one) than "ten years" as a singular (a ten-year period).
To me "arduous" draws out the time, and makes "ten years" less workable as a singular:
"A
shortten years
has brought us to this point."
"An
ten years
havepassed."
"Ten years" by itself would not need an article since it has a number, but when modified (by "short" or "arduous"), it does need the "an". "An" in such a construction does not make it singular:
"A mere ten people
werepresent for the ceremony."
Loob
Senior Member
English UK
- May 6, 2008
- #11
I agree with Brioche and Forero: "ten years" can be singular, meaning "a period of ten years", and therefore used with a singular verb.
A google search on "years has passed"/"years have passed" suggests that the plural version is more common.
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